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Is Jesus Christ in a Grandson Paradox?
November 23, 2009 | Tagged fathom events | Leave a Comment
Because he single-handedly played out three roles
at once, leading too his own atonement & death:
(1) As the 1st Adam (grandson), he listened
too rib-woman and caused the Fall of Man.
(2) As the 2nd Adam (grandfather), he grew up too be a criminal and died because of it.
(3) As God (The Father), he sacrificed himself (2) to himself (3) to stop himself (3) from sending us too Hell. (2) gets 2 days approx. in Hell, while we get eternity for not accepting the sacrifice of (2).
Jesus can’t come back (’Second Coming’), because his existence is an eternal loophole of self ego-stroking? Is #3 in a state of a emptiness/zoning out/catatonic
due to suicidal intentions by #2, who only exists because of #1’s lack of stopping rib-wife Eve? this deity of yours is a mess. Yet still manages to be ‘outside time’,
and at the right hand of himself, amazing.
Do you want a Heaven with a deity that can’t even fathom your
own existence, much less the issue being vice verse anyways?
Wouldn’t oblivion sound more peaceful then glorifying a shell that won’t respond or doesn’t have free will or is preset to follow a cycle of events (OT–>NT) and to respond yet still have an unconscious totality (fated to say what the scriptures make him say, not what he intends to)?
That is a ‘robot’, your own godman follows a predetermined path (Fall of Man, death for sins of man, sending self down to die for man, and restarting ad infinity) and can’t escape it.
Christians, feel free to refute 1-3 if you feel it to be necessary.
Askal: Thank you. Testing a hypothesis. 
Za: I’m not ‘making fun’ of anything. It seems this deity, or half-deity is stuck in a paradox. If this isn’t the case, please present a counter argument.
Rbl: Ad Homs and a non-sequitor to kick, with something relevant in the middle? Christian theology dictates that Jesus is the ‘Second Adam’, I don’t, I’m not a Christian and don’t compete over the identity of fictional characters. I spoke nothing of evolution.
Take it up with your fellow Theists, not me, about Jesus being the ‘Second Adam’ or not.
The ‘Grandson paradox’ is supposed to be complimentary too the Grandfather paradox. I find it necessary to have a counterargument by Christians if this is an acceptable debate concerning ‘Jesus Christ’ too others outside of YA.
Roboboogey: I’m not referring too Mormons. The writings of ‘Paul’ repetitively mention relativity between ‘Adam’ & ‘Christ’ as separate yet same entities (later deified ‘Christ’ though). I think this deity of Christianity is locked in a paradox (based on the very teachings of The Trinity, and the mixing of ‘Jesus’ with various ‘Old Testament’ characters used as tools of foreshadowing of his ‘future’ coming, etc), and I’d like to see a counter argument and answers too my other questions. I’m well aware of the Catholic councils of the past, I’ve done my research.
Tommy: Yes I know, confusing. I didn’t invent this concept of one character being the other though, Christianity did.
Das: ‘God is one entity’ is a contradiction, a deity isn’t an entity. I never said God & Jesus weren’t separate and equal, 1-3 demonstrates he is separate and equal in all his three variants. ‘God’ & ‘God The Father’ are interchangeable when specifying each *aspect* of said ‘God.’ At least, according to Gnostic concepts like found in the canon ‘Gospel of John.’
Hally: Well you know, he can do everything, because he’s Jesus. lulz.
Askal: Nice rebuttal of rbl’s comment.
The details following your question make too much sense of the nonsense that is Christianity. I predict you will not get any rational answers from its followers, since they subscribe to a religion that doesn’t trade on rationality, logic, reasonableness, and common sense.
P.S. I like the way you’ve skewered this religion by pointing out its obvious contradictions and nonsensical doctrines in a way that I’ve never seen before. Bravo.
@ rbl, rbl, btch, btch – The only thing you’ve proved is that every rational human being, i.e., not sucked into the quagmire of organized religion, knows that the most primitive primate is the one like you, who believes in impossible things like virgin birth and the resurrection of dead human bodies, and calls them "divine mysteries" because they can’t explain these absurdities with anything hinting at logic or rationality. There’s nothing hypocritical about me when it comes to my absolute loathing for organized theistic religions.
Edit: Looks like rbl, rbl’s answer has been deleted. Too bad, so sad…
@ Ironman…Thanks.
Askal | Nov 16, 2009
Never mind. There’s a long history of people making fun of what they don’t understand.
za | Nov 16, 2009
Leave my Christy alone you big, atheist meany!
The French Tickler | Nov 16, 2009
Hi from France d
jesus and all gods are the sons of nothing, since they don’t exist … All gods have been invented for scare people at the time and thus to have a big power on them !… So sad to see that we are in 2009 and those stupid beliefs are still there !! …
Human need to be free so …
Have a great day,
Cat.
Cat.
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